Mark Cuban was one of just two owners to vote against the Sonics' move to Oklahoma City. He's a total cockblocker, and his intransigence won't soon be forgotten. Money over bitches, Cuban. Here's some of his "reasoning":
"There could be information that sways me," he said. "If they come back and said the Oklahoma City index is 200 when it comes to watching the NBA on TNT or ABC, and no one in Seattle watches, then OK maybe there's information that goes beyond market size."Well, Sports Media Watch has been gathering that information:
"In Seattle, which is undergoing its first season without an NBA team in 42 years, nationally televised NBA games are averaging a 0.8 rating on ESPN and a 0.9 on TNT, down 20% and 10% respectively from a 1.0 on each network last year."See? Nobody in Seattle likes the NBA. At least, not anymore. David Stern is such a genius. The article continues.
"In Oklahoma City, which is in its first year as a full-time NBA city, games on ESPN are averaging a 0.9 rating, down 18% from a 1.1 in '07, while games on TNT are averaging a surprisingly low 0.6 -- down 33% from a 0.9 last year.So, apparently ratings are worse for Oklahoma City's inaugural NBA season than they were for the 2007-08 Sonics' 82-game "Fuck You" to the fans of Seattle. And apparently a 1.2 rating translates into a lot more homes in Seattle than it does in Oklahoma City. Somehow this information doesn't mesh with my perception of Thunder fans as the greatest sports fans in history of both sports and fans. If only there were some prominent Oklahoman, perhaps our sportscaster-turned-mayor, who could try to explain this away to the New York Times. Oh, here we go:
According to Nielsen, Oklahoma City Thunder telecasts are averaging a 1.2/2 rating and approximately 9,000 homes on KSBI (6 games), and a 1.1/2 and approximately 7,000 homes on FS Oklahoma. Sonics games averaged a 1.27 rating on FSN Northwest for the full 2007-08 season, equaling approximately 22,600 homes."
“Our fan base is still really not in tune with the rest of the league and even our team on the road,” Cornett said. “I don’t get the sense that if you walked into a restaurant and our team is playing a road game, that it’s a given that they are going to be playing it on TV. The market just hasn’t matured in that respect. To them, the N.B.A. is 41 home games, and the rest will take time to develop.”Well put, Mayor Mick. Everyone knows it will take time for Thunder fans--fans who deserved to have this basketball team more than its old fans--to figure out that half the games aren't played in Oklahoma. Naturally. Road games are a tricky concept. It's something that can only be learned through maturation and personal growth, and maybe those refrigerator magnet schedules they hand out for free. But mostly maturity. Hopefully, the fans who can figure out how to drive to the Ford Center can eventually also learn how to turn on the TV and navigate to the correct channel at the appropriate times. Maybe in year three.
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Uh oh, TV's not the only thing that's hard...another week, another huge national embarrassment for Seattle...from USAToday...
"Wash. court: Sex between teachers, 18-year-olds OK
SEATTLE (AP) — Washington state law does not bar teachers from having consensual sex with 18-year-old students, an appeals court ruled Tuesday in dismissing a case against a former high school choir teacher.
A three-judge panel of the Washington Court of Appeals unanimously agreed that the case should be dismissed. While the law was written vaguely, a review of legislative history shows that lawmakers only intended to criminalize contact between teachers and 16- or 17-year-old students — not those over 18, the court said.
"The name of the statute is 'sexual misconduct with a minor,"' said Hirschfelder's attorney, Rob Hill, stressing that the state recognizes that an 18-year-old is no longer a minor."
...It looks like 18 year old girls will now have other "opportunities" for receiving A's in Seattle public schools...Seattle has also added another "perk" for recruiting high school teachers...ROFLMAO
reading comprehension is overrated.
all they said is a teacher wouldn't go to jail for having sex with an 18 year old...just like anywhere else in the country.
it says nothing about the teacher being able to keep his job.
perhaps your brain cells would be better spent trying to figure out what a thunder road game is.
It's pretty clear how Anonymous (above) got through school. As Big Wood points out, he doesn't have the reading comprehension or cognitive reasoning abilities to pass in the conventional way.
Your own numbers would say that, despite the fact that Clay Bennett was giving a terrorizing "Fuck You" season to Seattle, they watched Sonics games and NBA games with more regularity. Or at least earned the same Nielsen ratings as the city who "deserved the team much more".
Seattle is a much larger city, so the same Nielsen rating would lead to a higher total number of viewers in Seattle. For people like Mark Cuban (businessmen) and Clay Bennett (bad businessman), this means more interest, more revenue from advertisements, etc.
If Oklahoma City really "deserved the team" as you outline, then one would assume (as Mark Cuban did), you would see results in the Nielsen ratings. A city that was dedicated to the NBA would watch with more regularity than a city that allegedly took their team for granted.
What we've actually seen is that the same ratio of people watch basketball in both OK City and Seattle, but Seattle has a much larger base population and thus makes more sense for an NBA franchise.
More simply put, if 1 out of every 10 people are going to watch your basketball team, would you rather be in a city with 12 million people or 1 million?
So, what you are saying is that a market share number being the same, but used in the 14th largest media market results in more actual people watching the games than the 45th largest market in Okc-Tulsa market.
If this were a pizza, the Seattle pizza might be a 15" pizza, and Okc-Tulsa a two person 8" mini pizza. The Seattle slice would have more actual pizza in a pizza sliced 12 ways, and adding more toppings in OKC did not mean more pizza lovers?
Huh, that is not at all what you told the Oklahoma legislature when grasping for business tax credits Clay, you gave them the pizza pie in the sky vision.
It was all extra cheese and Canadian Bacon, pepperoni and black olives. But that slice is too small, that is what you told the NBA about Seattle, nobody watches or cares.
They might ask you to leave, but that's just what you would want, I think you will get the NO Shinn treatment, suck it up and stick it out.
You may want to check your sarcasm-meter there Chris.
I had a hard time detecting it at first, too, especially when it's laid on this thick.
Today, once again, Washington is a laughing stock in headlines across the nation
Headline in Ohio...
"Teachers can have sex with 18-year-old students in Washington state"
From Maryland...
"Wash. Court OKs Sex Between Teachers, 18-Year-Olds"
From Florida...
"Washington law: Sex between teacher, 18-year-old student OK"
From Oregon...
"Seattle Court: Teachers can have sex with 18-year-olds"
From Pennsylvania...
"Court: Washington state law doesn't bar teachers from having sex with 18-year-old students"
You have to admit, this is hilarious...you can't make this kind of stuff up.
anon, you REALLY don't know how to read, do you?
i'm beginning to wonder if OKC's tv ratings are low because they can't read what the guide says.
maybe if they drew pictures.
What does my ability to read have to do with what those hilarious headlines say across the nation?
Is "Big Wood" what your 18 students call you?
Laughing stock? Not so sure after reading this. I wish the Daily Okie made this up:
Tulsa dog sex case sentencing is delayed
TULSA — Sentencing of Donald Roy Seigfried, 55, who has pleaded no contest to a charge of crime against nature, was delayed Tuesday until Jan. 26 at his attorney’s request .. The charges against the two were based on videos that depict bestiality, according to an affidavit.
holy shit! adults in WA are having consensual sex?! what the hell? not my flavor. i guess people in OKC are more in love with hearing themselves cheer in the fraud center(and talk about bullshit on comment threads) than actually cheering on "their" team. either that or brian davis was a bad call.
Comparing Washington teachers having sex with thier students to sickos having sex with animals...
Interesting angle...
I want to move to OKC...thier ability to justify and a lie to themselves is second to none!!
At least they are good at something..
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"Wash. court: Sex between teachers, 18-year-olds OK
But remember that in Oklahoma, it's about sex between teachers and 18 year olds from the same immediate family. Like the song says:
"Oklahoma, where we eat with a spork.
Oklahoma, where the family trees don't fork."
"Hey Mom and Dad, I'm going to be home late from school. Mr. Johnson said that I could come by after class and earn extra credit."
What do consensual sex laws have to do with Nielson ratings?
Incidentally, teachers in WA do lose their teaching certificate regardless of age if they have a relationship with a student. The court ruling says that they cannot be incarcerated if the student is 18+. Fired, stripped of their license, but not jailed--as it is not a criminal offense for adults to have sex.
This is pretty much the law in every other state with a few exceptions. The age of consent in Oklahoma is actually 16, 14 with parental consent and it is not criminal for a teacher to have sex with an 18 year old either.
The national embarrassment that is Seattle has now gone global.
From China...
"US court: Sex between teachers, 18-year-olds OK
SEATTLE – Washington state law does not bar teachers from having consensual sex with 18-year-old students, an appeals court ruled Tuesday in dismissing a case against a former high school choir teacher."
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2009-01/14/content_7397826.htm
This one is really funny...
Teacher Magazine: Court: Teachers can have sex with 18-year-olds
SEATTLE (AP) — State law does not bar teachers from having sex with 18-year-old students.
http://www.teachermagazine.org/tm/articles/2009/01/13/222841wstudentteachersex_ap.html
Was this written in the benefits section?...LOL
The embarrassment that is Seattle? I can't find a single thing that is positive about OKC..... other than its a third rate market that will lose the team that it stole..
@ Anonymous:
Really?
TV ratings are an important part of having a team, if ratings are low then advertising dollars do not meet expectations which means Clay will go you idiots again for another handout.
Is anyone surprised by this? Okies are a bunch of rubes. They don't even know what they are "supporting", it's no surprise they have crappy TV ratings.
Okies can find Seattle based news articles and throw them up in our faces but it's clear they are worried about what's going on with the Thunders. The Oklahoma economy is about to totally collapse. The Thunders can't sell tickets at face value. It's embarrassing.
Okies, do your worst. Meanwhile the world is laughing at you.
The Okie inferioriy complex shines through once again.
This was a brilliant post. Keep 'em coming!
I was one of the Seattle fans that kept watching games the last year in Seattle, despite realizing that Clay was trying to make them as TERRIBLE as possible. Even though I knew that they had no chance of sticking around, I couldn't forsake the Sonics history that I had experienced over my life up to that point. It was only a few years ago that Allen missed a three that would have sent us to game seven against the Spurs... I guess that watching the crappy, Clay-led Sonics still gave me joy.
At least this blog fills some of the void during the NBA season... even when people feel the need to post material that is off-topic. It's too bad that nutjobs like Anonymous push these kind of stories into the headlines. Hasn't his mom walked into his room yet and seen that he isn't doing his homework?
Wow. They really know how to breed idiots in Oklahoma.
This puts a whole new meaning on "sex education classes".
Honestly, how long will this old crap fly for? The team, as abysmal as their record is, is getting better. There is no one down here who is disappointed, yes I'm an Oklahoman. Kevin Durant admits he loves it here, as I'm sure you've read in NewsOK. Seriously, with all of the struggling programs throughout your attractive state I am surprised this is still a major issue.
P.S.: We enjoy your columns down here as much as you all do.- We laugh, but in a sympathetic way
The Thunder slaughtered the Jazz 114-93 in front of over 18400 screaming fans in the Ford Center tonite.
The Thunder are now 4-4 since New Years eve and are getting better every game.
Attendance figures work out to be about 1/5th of team revenue. The largest is TV advertising at roughly 50%, followed by merchandise sales 30%, with the last 20% made up by ticket sales.
So you can sell out every game and still go bankrupt. It takes advertisers to buy air time to keep you afloat. If no one is watching, no one is paying premium dollar for advertising.
The Sonics lost money every year for ten years and went broke and went out of business in Seattle.
The Thunder are profitable in OKC.
Wow
The Blunder beat the Jazz by 21. The fact that the Jazz leading scorer Carlos Boozer is injured and didn't play I'm sure helped.
Sorry but the Sonics did not lose money over the last ten years. Do some research instead of regurgitating the pablum from Bubba Bennett's newsrag.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2315890
Monday, May 15, 2006
By MIKE LEWIS AND PHUONG CAT LE
P-I REPORTERS
"It's a race the Sonics are losing, at least according to numbers disclosed by the team. (Pro teams closely guard their finances even when asking the public to spend millions.) In 2004-05, the team had the sixth-best record in the NBA and a payroll below the league average. The result?
"We still were nowhere close to breaking even," said Sonics President Wally Walker.
In 2004-05, the Sonics' biggest revenue sources were national and local TV contracts (totaling $42.4 million), ticket sales of $28 million and a playoff stint that netted another $8 million. Total revenue of $88 million, however, was dwarfed by expenses of $115 million, according to numbers provided by the team.
KeyArena opened to rave reviews in 1995, with then-Seattle Center Director Virginia Anderson and other city officials calling it "state of the art."
The Key made enough from luxury suites and club seats to cover its debt for the first three years and even generated $2 million in income in 1996. But it lost money in 1998 during the NBA lockout, refunding $2.4 million to luxury suite owners. While it recovered in 1999, it has only seen red since."
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/270255_nbasonics15.html
Oklahoma is still a joke of a town in the NBA. No one takes you guys seriously. So keep talking, making fun of Seattle, and believing your own hype.
The Sonics didn't go broke in Seattle, we all know you want to believe that but it's going to be a lot of fun watching this franchise crash and burn in Oklashitty City.
Denial...a warm and cozy place to hide from The Truth.
What's durant supposed to say? it's an oklahoma newspaper and he plays for a team based in oklahoma. he'd be stupid to go out and say he doesn't enjoy being there. there's no way his agent or any of his endorsers would let him go to the newspapers and say, "i hate oklahoma city. i can't wait to get out." it makes no business sense.
OKC will struggle but survive with its franchise, even in winning times. When Clay and the boys, or the NBA, can't make the numbers work then the real fun begins. And yes, they are getting better but could they have gotten worse?
As far as "another huge national embarrassment for Seattle" it is an amusing story for a day, but has quickly receded in importance. Seattle leads the nation in college graduates and will figure out the right solution. OKC still needs to educate its residents that "Deliverance" is not a love story.
Oklahoma schools must have really failed you The Truth since your reading comprehension is so bad.
"The Key made enough from luxury suites and club seats to cover its debt for the first three years and even generated $2 million in income in 1996. But it lost money in 1998 during the NBA lockout, refunding $2.4 million to luxury suite owners. While it recovered in 1999, it has only seen red since."
That's the City of Seattle's debt on the Key Arena the article's talking about dumbass not the Sonics.
No...the global embarrassment that is Seattle continues today...
Wednesday, Jan. 14, 2009 11:23 PST
Student-teacher sex should always be illegal
The ongoing "Dateline" melodrama that is student-teacher sex gets another interesting chapter: A Washington court recently ruled that state law does not bar a teacher from having sex with a student who is 18.
This is obviously a rather shocking transgression of social norms -- MSNBC's grabby headline read, "Court OKs sex between teachers, 18-year-olds", as if the liberal Washington court were also handing out condoms and lube with a knowing wink...
You guy's are a riot...
Seattle Gay band will march to the beat of Obama's drum
Perception is reality, as the sight of 177 gay musicians in silver baseball jackets and blue berets, playing "Ode to Joy" as they march up Pennsylvania Avenue during Barack Obama's presidential inauguration next week representing Seattle.
Seattle's Rainbow City Band will be marching, the first time in history that a gay group will officially march in a Presidential Inaugural Parade.
"It's symbolic, but symbolism is important," said Will Dean, 42, who works in administration at University of Washington Medicine and will lead the 26-piece trumpet section. "You need things that are milestones to represent where you've been and where you're going, and for Seattle, this is an important milestone."
98.162.223.152
This one is too good to stay away from.Okie's you stole the Sonics. No ifs ands or buts about it. Because clay supertanked the team to get out of Seattle, but mark my words, as soon as possible, Durant bolts. The team will be even worse than they were during the last ten years. They will leave in a few years. Slinging mud about teachers and gays ain't gonna change that.
Let me get this straight. Okies are making fun of Seattle because of a law that would make it legal for teachers to sleep with 18 year olds. Yet, Oklahoma has one of the highest rates of incest.
Where is the joke? Other than okies being known for sleeping with their sisters and cousins?
Durant will bolt for the obvious reasons: 1. Joklahoma is not relevant and will never be relevant 2. He's not getting any attention now so his agent and sponsors will advise him to play in a big market. (http://iwantoutofokc.com/)
Also, it's going to be fun watching all the Okies waiting in anticipation to land the #1 pick for a chance at hometown boy Griffin and in the end not getting the top pick. All that suffering for nothing.
Seattle sports in a foul economy: Stadium, arena a hard sell
Getting funds for upgrades not easy amid budget cuts
By GREG JOHNS
P-I REPORTER
It's a tough argument to counter. How can officials from Seattle and the University of Washington be in Olympia seeking money for KeyArena and Husky Stadium upgrades when the state budget is taking a beating?
Schools face cutbacks, jobs are being lost, and the economy is heading south faster than Clay Bennett with a basketball team under his arm.
So, yes, the mood in the state capital is grim this week as the 2009 legislative session gets under way.
House Speaker Frank Chopp, a man wielding considerable power in Olympia, has long opposed public financing for Sonics arena projects. And when asked recently about chances of the state allowing local tax streams to be designated this year for sports stadiums, he indicated the money might instead be needed to keep basic government services in operation.
Questioned by the Seattle P-I editorial board about the mood in Olympia facing the stadium issues, Gov. Chris Gregoire acknowledged it's not a popular topic in her neighborhood.
"I can only tell you what I've heard when I've broached the subject with legislators, which is not a lot of interest," she said."
Posted by Face Reality at 1/13/09 11:36 p.m.
The State is facing a 7 billion dollar deficit that is only going to get bigger.
State unemployment is topping 7%, will likely hit double digets by summer.
Washington had the biggest single monthly applications for Unemployment Insurance last month. We'll break that record this month, with money running out of that pool.
Social service programs across the Board, already teetering on the brink, are facing massive cuts in Olympia. Example: The Basic Health Care plan might kick 42% of state citizens off it's roles, leaving thousands with no health insurance.
Etc, etc, etc....
We're in the worst economic crisis in this State and the Nation since the 30's.
And what do we get? Clowns demanding money for still more stadiums?
BREAKING NEWS: Everyone's economy is tanking. Well, except for the highest recession resistant city in the nation: Oklahoma City.
Posted by madmadruss at 1/14/09 9:32 a.m.
"help a select few who can afford to go watch a bunch of felons play a game ... subsidizing there over priced entertainment ... just think of all the minimum wage jobs taking tickets selling hot dogs ... poor rich guy cant afford to pay the true cost of his entertainment ... time to stop playing feel sorry for the millionaire in america ... if the business in question can not stand on its own two feet let it fall"
YEAH!! Wait What?
Actually Alaska has the highest rate of incest.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Which_US_state_has_the_highest_incest_rate
The NBA was profitable in Seattle for 7 of the last 10 years--including 07 and 08 when Bennett tried to pull a "Major League" on the team. Check out http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/32/biz_06nba_Seattle-SuperSonics_329710.html for revinue and operating statistics.
If you go back over the history of the franchise, it turned a profit of greater than 8 mil (2008 dollars) in 85% of seasons.
The bottom line is that Bennett wanted to bring his new toy to his home town regardless of the economics. It was a poor business decision but when you mix emotions and business, it seldom works out.
Where does it say that on the site?
Dude, that's not really an amount of revenue you want to brag about. That's the type of revenue for a city that doesn't want to approve funding for a new arena.
"BREAKING NEWS: Everyone's economy is tanking. Well, except for the highest recession resistant city in the nation: Oklahoma City."
I love this. Really? Its because nobody wants to live there, meaning there was no housing bubble. You can't fall very far if you never leave the ground in the first place.
Average Family Income in OKC: $42k.
Average Family Income in Seattle: $64k
I don't give two sh!ts if the cost of living is lower... your ability to support and NBA team is independent of how cheap it is to rent a house.
28% of people in OKC have college degrees. 48% have them in Seattle.
Mr. Baker,
Clay also told OKC that they would be able to get one of those snazzy, pressed Domino's sandwiches too! He promised....crossed his heart, and hoped to die.
"The Thunder slaughtered the Jazz 114-93 in front of over 18400 screaming fans in the Ford Center tonite."
I assume by "tonite" you meant "tonight".
You got one thing right, the Thunder won the game. Everyone who saw it on League Pass saw a lot of empty seats, hardly the 18400 screaming fans you claim.
I was at the game, and I do not know what the hell you are talking about with "a lot" of empty seats. I'm glad you're still following the team and everything, but if I were you guys I'd be much more interested in the decline of the Grizzlies than the Thunder.
Getting pumped up for another Thunder game tonight (which I will watch on FSN). I bought tickets for the Heat game on Sunday and top of that my wife won tickets to the NJ game on the 26th, so looking forward to the next couple of weeks. I live oustide Tulsa so I get to the Ford Center when I can.
FYI you should really start acting like you are Clay Bennett again, that stuff cracks me up!
We came so close last time. I know our boys will put on a great show tonight.
Oh man, OKC finished 2nd again:
http://www.mensfitness.com/lifestyle/216
Oklahoma City residents received a bottom score in fruit and vegetable consumption, with only 17 percent eating the recommended five or more servings per day.
Oklahoma City residents are 28 percent less likely to participate in fitness walking than average, the 2nd lowest overall participation rate among cities in our survey.
Basketball courts are practically nonexistent here, among the fewest per capita in our survey. There's just one court here for every 12,162 residents; the national average is one court per 6,909 people.
Of course, Clay, you finished 2nd to Florida again, as Miami got first. So it looks like they beat you on the football field, and drank your milkshake...
Tell Durant to finish his fries, and you can be #1.
Where's the current Heisman from? Where's the future 2009 #1 pick in the NBA Draft from? Where's the top 2 guard in the 2009 Recruiting Class from? It's called BBQ.
We're too busy enjoying the food at the Ford Center to care.
Some Anonymous asked, "Where's the current Heisman from?"
New York, I think. Unless you mean the current Heisman winner . . . he's from Oklahoma.
Oklahomans has gotten pretty good at winning things that get decided by votes and in other ways that can be manipulated -- the Heisman, the Big 12 Championship, an NBA team, Oklahoman of the year.
I suppose that's what you resort to when you can actually earn it on the field/court. Everyone knows Bradford didn't earn the Heisman, OU didn't earn the Big 12 Championship, and Oklahoma doesn't deserve the NBA. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure Claymate is the best Oklahoma has to offer.
I just feel bad for all the new thunder fans, you're the victims in all this. Like i said Durant bolts ASAP, everyone knows this this and the team will either fold out of clays pride(Oklahoman of the year) or they get shipped to another city in 3-4 years tops. This is painful to watch and rips my heart out.
89-79
Uh oh...the Thunder are starting to get good...
Bitch slapped A.I. and the Pistons in front of ANOTHER sellout crowd at the Ford Center...
That's 2 in a row and 5 of the last 9...
The trolls were crying like Seattle sissys on the live blog tonight...it was hilarious!!!
Them Thunder been playing some damn good ball lately. Durant is a beast.
In other news, Allen, Miller and Pritchard take it up the ass like an SOS member on the night of the gay pride parade...
"Grizzlies forward Darius Miles, who signed a 10-day contract Saturday, made his 10th appearance of the season Friday, placing the remaining $18 million of his salary back on Portland’s payroll. The Trail Blazers sent out an e-mail earlier this month warning of possible legal action against any team signing the free agent, but the Grizzlies signed Miles.
He finished with 10 points and seven rebounds in 14 minutes."
Slade the Gay Blade AKA Old Sooner AKA TDawg.
You are totally obsessed with taking it up the ass. To each his own but this aint a gay chat room dude.
Congrats OKC, 2 in a row! A first in franchise history. Maybe now people in Oklahoma will start watching. If the TV numbers continue to be the worst in the league, this franchise is in trouble.
The Blunder fans wearing Blunderwear (c) will have a team for a long time, at least 15 years, then all bets are off.
The franchise value, recurring and non-recurring costs, are flipped in okc. They have profits, kind of, but the return on investment would be a loss if sold anytime soon.
They have a low resale value there given the market size, the state tax break will expire, and the price Bennett would have to charge to recover his cost of buying and moving the team, and the loss in the FU season in Seattle.
Ford Center with the remodel is in a similar position as KeyArena in 1995, a short term solution with a demand of a new palace in 15 years or else.
Welcome to being a big league city OKC!
There have been reports that the Celtics would like to add Joe Smith...from the Boston Globe...
"Smith doesn't want to bolt Thunder
Joe Smith would rather try to spark the Thunder than chase an elusive NBA championship ring.
There has been speculation that contending teams, including the Celtics, would be interested in Smith if he is bought out of the final year of his contract, which is paying him $4.7 million this season with Oklahoma City. However, the 6-foot-10-inch, 225-pound forward has not asked to be bought out, and the Thunder have no plans to offer him a buyout.
So, if a team would like to acquire the 14-year veteran, it would likely have to figure out a trade. The Thunder are tied with the Washington Wizards with an NBA-low eight wins, but have played better of late, winning five of nine.
"I like the young fellas and what they bring to the table," Smith said of the Thunder. "A lot of people want to chase that ring and things like that. But when you have a group of guys like this giving it their all every night, I don't get involved in stuff like that. We dug this hole together. We have to fight out of this hole together.
"I've been hearing my name, as always, all over the place. Things aren't looking bright now, but it's turning around. That's all I can ask for."
lol, that's why he's been a loser his whole career. With Thunderlogic Joe Smith wanting to coast towards easy paychecks and greater stats v. competing on a winning team is OKC>Boston Celtics.
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